A. Jim’s BAD deeds before 1987 while in the Great Commission church

Please list any BAD deeds Jim performed before 1987 when he left the Great Commission church.  Try to list an approximate date it occurred.

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5 Responses to A. Jim’s BAD deeds before 1987 while in the Great Commission church

  1. a says:

    Between 1976 and 1986, and estimated 500 people were excommunicated from GC for questioning/disagreeing with a leader, talking to ex-members, and sometimes completely unspecified charges. This behavior was generally at the leading of Jim McCotter, although in many cases it was also “approved” by other elders (many currently in leadership) such as Dennis Clark, Herschel Martindale, Rick Whitney, and others. McCotter was at the forefront, however, often initiating these excommunications to prevent anyone from disagreeing with his teachings. Evidence of this is documented in the book Marching To Zion, as well as The Blitz Papers, and both of these can be acquired from Larry Pile.

    For further information on the excommunications, an excellent Master’s Thesis on that very topic is available online here: link

    When describing the victims of excommunication during this time period, Paul Martin (in his 1993 book, Cult-Proofing Your Kids) wrote that:
    Many ex-members have faced long years of therapy trying to recover from their experiences in this group. Some have attempted suicide. Still others, some ten years later, sustained such psychological damage that they have been unable to get on with their lives, often taking jobs well below their educational and intellectual qualifications.

    As a result of McCotter’s leadership and teachings, the group was highly authoritarian, and was featured frequently in newspaper articles critical of the movement. It should be noted that the practice of excommunicating critics ceased for the most part as soon as Jim left, although other problems stemming from Jim’s teachings seem to linger on in the current movement. More information on that is available on gcmwarning.com or decommissioned.wordpress.com

    In Marching To Zion, a former member is quoted:
    “I worked closely with Jim and I know that you cannot work closely with Jim and not lie constantly and violate your conscience . . . I would suggest to you that I don’t think Jim has really seen God in the fulness God would like him to see him in, because you don’t have to desire the preeminence. You don’t have to promote yourself, but you desire to be Christ-like and become a servant once you’ve seen the Lord in the way the Lord wants to be seen. And Jim has totally missed that.”

    In Cult-Proofing Your Kids, Paul Martin wrote about his experiences with Jim:
    Ultimately, by 1978 the lack of ethical standards I perceived on the part of GCI’s national leader [Jim] finally woke me up. He was able to justify veiled deception and outright misrepresentation as effective means of getting out the Gospel. To question this was to be divisive. For seven months, I struggled in vein to get this leader to listen. The experience for me and my wife was like being interrogated in a Communist Chinese prison. During that time she suffered a miscarriage, and I was physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually exhausted. My father, an evangelical pastor, heard of these discussions and was enraged. Normally a calm man, his anger flared. I will never forget what he said about my leader: “Paul, I have met thousands of people in my life, but when I met your leader, cold chills ran down my spine. He is the most evil man I have met in my life. . . . He is a false teacher . . . he throttled you.”

    Despite this, he has never been formerly criticized by national leaders currently in the movement, nor have many of the people he excommunicated had their excommunications revoked. Furthermore, he is still quoted frequently by pastors, and his abuses are never mentioned in church history sermons. Quoting from Ronald Enroth’s book, Recovering From Churches That Abuse:
    A former member sees in such an attitude a pattern that “protects unequivocally the prophet-leader, keeping him in holy light, irregardless of the realities of distortion and problems seen from those not under the spell. The implication is, then, that they, even though having made significant moves, are still under ‘the spell.'”

  2. Mr t says:

    My one and only contact with Jim McC was the summer of 1985. I was attending a summer long leadership training withe the Gci church. Inspired by the teaching to get counsel for things I asked him if he thought I should go see a concert or not. I could not determine if it was ok with The Lord. He said “if you wanna go then go!”
    Point is I don’t see why people think he was into mind control.

    • MJI says:

      Just starting to research Jim McCotter myself. Controlling groups and leaders often have unwritten rules that narrow your choices to good and bad. It is under this influence that members of a controlling group make every one of their choices. The fact that you felt you had to ask Jim whether it was okay to see a particular movie is a red flag for me that he did have undue influence in your life at that time. There were perhaps many rules for you to consider – if a movie was an appropriate expenditure of your time, was it poor stewardship of your money, was the content okay, etc. While these are always fair questions to consider, it is not Biblical nor normal in the secular world to let a leader make such decisions for you. Even in abusive environments, a controlling leader may have choices that they will allow you to have free will on (who cares what movie you go to) but can always put pressure on you to make a certain choice when they deem it necessary. If Jim would have said no, what would you have done? If you reply, “I wouldn’t have gone,” then he did have control over your decisions. Finally, it is the fact that even abusive leaders give their followers freedom to choose on issues of minor consequence to the leader that allows the controlled followers to believe they have complete freedom to make every one of their choices. Keep in mind, abusive control can also be unspoken. For example, if I tell you that questioning a leader or even listening to other people question a leader is a sin, then you might dismiss even concerning things that you or someone else sees because you believe it to be sinful to do otherwise. In this way, you were being controlled without anyone ever having to tell you not to talk. Mind control is complex, insidious, and subtle. It is why it takes a whole book to do any justice to a complete discussion of many of these issues. I wish you the best.

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  4. HolyMoly says:

    McCotter is still going at it.

    Looks like he fleeced all the big-spenders he could find (looking at you Roland Ripamonti), and now he’s a 2-bit shill, hawking pamphlets.

    I hung out with his kids when I was little. Jim was an absolute tyrant. If I’m not mistaken he’s estranged from many of them now.

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